Good morning Crime Con community and welcome to day two of our amazing lineup of discussions, deep dives and discoveries into the world of true crime.

We're starting as we mean to go on today.

With victims at the forefront, hard conversations being had and tough questions being asked.

And none may be more interesting than this.

Our killer's born bad.

Is it nature, nurture,

society, sugar, or a result of parenting? Murder Mile, true crime enthusiast and UK true crime come together to explore some of the youngest killers asking whether it's possible to be

born bad by investigating those who are surely too young to be corrupted.

Please welcome to the stage, Michael Buchanan Dunn, Paul Sutherland and Adam Lloyd for Born Bad.

Okay, good morning everyone and thank you so much for coming.

There's another similar show going on with academics that really know their stuff. But in this room, we're happy amateurs, Mike, aren't we? Just assholes, just some bald artoles. And the room is about me, Mike, doing what they called?

Right, said Fred.

Right. Fred, tribute act are unfounded, okay?

I'm two sex.

Oh, my love.

Okay, so those who don't know me, my name is Adam Lloyd.

I'm host of the UK True Crime Podcast.

This is Mike double-barreled name, host of the Murder Marl podcast.

Hello.

Thanks for coming.

So we're talking about children who kill.

So thankfully, children killing is very

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