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Hello there, welcome to Rumpod. I'm Jenny Falkuner, and I'm so excited that I've got Johnny Davies with me.

Now, if you haven't yet listened to the episode that just came out then you have to go back and listen to it straight

after this because it's amazing. Johnny you did this phenomenal challenge. Yep. You ran all the

tube lines. The entire London underground. 11 lines, 11 days, 572 kilometres. Which is like 355 miles just to give you the kind of alternative.

And whichever way you work, you now fully understand.

It was a long way.

It was a lot of running, yeah.

A lot of running.

But you smashed it.

You did really well, raised a lot of money.

And with that, I think you were the perfect person to let us know how you progress from just

running normal distances to running ultra

because an ultra is anything further than a marathon correct yes so how do you build up to that

because like for me I've done multiple marathons but I'm terrified of going further it seems too

difficult I think the best way to put it and this is where my level of expertise comes in at eating, it's, you know, ultramarathens aren't races, they're eating competitions. It's all about fueling. It's all about putting fuel inside of yourself and enjoying the process of it. You know, there's nothing better than just running 50, 60K with some friends, challenging each other, pushing each other other there's so many highs and lows you go

through these waves and patterns are feeling great feeling terrible and eating throughout is the one thing

you have to keep doing to keep fueling yourself you know your body's only got a certain amount of glycogen in

it you've got to keep topping that up same in the marathon when you hit the wall that just didn't just imagine

a much longer version and that you're running a much slower out

and just find ways to enjoy it

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