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American Prestige

Bonus - Eleanor of Aquitaine, Mother of Failsons and Success Daughters w/ Eleanor Janega and Luke Waters (Preview)

American Prestige

Daniel Bessner & Derek Davison

History, News, Politics

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 May 2026

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Subscribe now for the full episode. Keep your eyes peeled for Season 2 of Welcome to the Crusades, our crossover series with Eleanor and Luke, coming soon. For now, enjoy Season 1. Happy Mother’s Day! Danny and Derek reunite with Eleanor and Luke of We’re Not So Different to talk about the life and legacy of Eleanor of Aquitaine. They discuss Eleanor’s power and wealth, her marriage to Louis VII, the Second Crusade, her relationship with Henry II, failsons Richard and John, her several success daughters, political influence, patronage of troubadours, courtly love, and Eleanor’s place in medieval and popular memory. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:11.2

I would also say that from the perspective of looking at her as a mother, this event is like her becoming a sin eater for her sons and sacrificing so that they can do this

0:27.8

is indicative of both her desire to make sure that they have a firm footing and to make sure

0:36.1

that like people aren't cast out that that Henry,

0:39.3

King Henry doesn't like try to kill or take out or do something bad to his sons.

0:47.9

So she does this even though Richard is her favorite kid.

0:52.0

Richard is a mama's boy.

0:53.4

Oh, this is a future.

0:54.7

Richard the Lionheart,

0:56.1

Third Crusade.

0:57.1

We'll get to him at some point.

0:58.0

We'll get that.

0:59.6

But this is Richard the Lionheart and he is a mama's boy.

1:04.7

And say what you will about that.

1:07.0

But Eleanor,

1:08.1

he was apparently Eleanor's favorite too.

1:11.6

And so, like, she was giving up, like, her, the rest of her, like, life with him until he became king, because in order to, like, appease this and keep this going.

1:24.9

And, I mean, that, like, for a mother, like, you, you admire the

1:31.1

political instincts and intelligence it takes to do that. But, like, for a mom, for a parent to do

1:39.3

that is just, it's a really heartbreaking thing. Like, you know, it's, she's, I, she's one of my favorite, like, characters in doing

1:49.1

the show with Eleanor.

1:50.2

She's, she's one of my favorite characters because she just, like, there's so much stuff

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