Bonus Edition: Fiona Hill and David Holmes vs. the Committee with No Bull
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🗓️ 22 November 2019
⏱️ 162 minutes
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On Thursday, Fiona Hill, the former National Security Council Russia adviser, and David Holmes, counselor for political affairs at the U.S. embassy in Ukraine, testified before the House Intelligence Committee. Here is the testimony of Hill and Holmes with no member-infighting, no speechifying, and no unnecessary fluff.
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| 0:27.2 | and the aftermath. |
| 0:30.9 | I'm Elena Kagan and this is the LawFair podcast bonus edition. |
| 0:35.7 | On Thursday, Fiona Hill, the former National Security Council Russia advisor and David |
| 0:40.4 | Holmes, counselor for political affairs at the US Embassy in Ukraine, testified before |
| 0:45.1 | the House Intelligence Committee. |
| 0:47.4 | With that, here's the testimony of Hill and Holmes with no member-inviting, no speech |
| 0:51.5 | ifying and no unnecessary fluff. |
| 0:54.5 | It's the LawFair podcast bonus edition, Fiona Hill and David Holmes versus the committee |
| 0:59.5 | with no bull. |
| 1:02.0 | But let me ask you, Dr. Hill, about your concern with that Russian narrative, that it wasn't |
| 1:09.6 | the Russians that engaged in interfering in election in 2016. |
| 1:16.0 | And of course this was given a boost when President Trump and Helsinki and the President's |
| 1:19.6 | Appuaten said that he questions his own intelligence agencies. |
| 1:22.8 | But why are the Russians pushing that narrative that it was Ukraine? |
| 1:26.2 | How does that serve Russian interests? |
| 1:28.8 | The Russians' interests, frankly, to de-legitimize our entire presidency. |
| 1:33.4 | So one issue that I do want to raise, and I think that this would resonate with our colleagues |
| 1:39.7 | on the committee from the Republican Party, is that the goal of the Russians was really |
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