Hello, dear Green Dreamer. It's your host, Kimaya. We received such incredible feedback about our

recent episode with Dean Spade. So if you haven't gotten to check it out, I highly recommended.

Also, as a bonus, we're doing an episode swap with Dean's podcast today. So you're about to hear

an interview from his show called Love in a F-dub world.

And just so you know how to search for it, the F-word is spelled out or with an asterisk for his

book of the same title.

Dean's podcast rests on this acknowledgement that our social and resistance movements are rooted in

relationships ultimately and are only as strong as they are. So he explores what it means to build

the skills that we need for creating and sustaining strong relationships. The episode that we're

sharing is a conversation between Dean Spade and the brilliant Adrian

Marie Brown. So if you enjoy this episode, please go check out his podcast, book, and Patreon as well,

where they do live events and some bonus content not shared on other more hostile platforms.

You can learn more at patreon.com slash Dean Spade.

Thank you so much for tuning in today. I hope you enjoy this listen and I'll look forward to catching you again next week with our regular programming. I'm Dean Spade.

For over two decades, I've been working in movements to build queer and trans liberation

and to end war, borders, police, and prisons.

Love in a Fucked Up World is my new book and podcast series.

It's based on the idea that our resistance movements are made of our relationships

and are only as strong as they are.

Things are so hard right now, and we have to stick together and cultivate radical solidarity,

care, and courage.

Love and a fucked up world offers tools that can help us align our everyday actions

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