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It's Jesse coming at you with another Thursday bonus episode from the LinkedIn Podcast Network.

Our network of 10 shows, that's 10 shows, one of which I hope is as close to your heart as it is to mine.

That's Hello Monday.

But we have nine other shows and nine other hosts that I can't wait for you to meet.

So every other Thursday, I'm going to share an episode with you.

It's a bonus. This week, we have Alex Cantrowitz. He's host of big technology. He is an

intrepid tech reporter. This one's close to my heart because, of course, I covered technology

as a journalist on the ground for close to 15 years.

Now, Alex is in conversation with another guy I know, a guy named Tristan Harris.

He's the star of the documentary, The Social Dilemma, and the co-founder of the Center for

Humane Technology. You know, Tristan is of Silicon Valley. He's a designer. He came up in it.

He created a lot of the tools that you use without even thinking about it every day.

And then he started to have questions about those self-same tools.

Enjoy this conversation and then find Alex and me on LinkedIn. Thanks.

Hello and welcome to the Big Technology Podcast, a show for cool headed nuance conversation

of the tech world and beyond. Joining us today is the star of The Social Dilemma Movie,

the co-founder of The Center for Humane Technology and someone whose work I've been

following for a while and I'm looking forward to a good intense conversation about the movie

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