Hey, Side Door listeners, it's Tony. We hope you enjoyed last week's episode on Brewing History, Red, White, and Brew.

If you haven't listened to that yet, stop right now and go check it out.

But just when you thought the fun was over, we've got something extra special for you in a little mini episode to help tied you over until next week.

Side Door interviews a lot of people for each episode of the show and sometimes we really wish we could share some of these stories that don't make the final cut.

This interview was way too cool not to share.

According to the White House, President Obama was the first

president to brew beer on White House grounds. And I got to speak with the guy

who helped make that happen. Sam Cass. Mr. Cass is former senior advisor for nutrition policy to the president as well as former

assistant chef in the White House.

Talking to him was really, really amazing and I hope you enjoy listening to our conversation.

Don't worry, we'll be back with a new full episode next week.

But in the meantime, A L to the chief.

Hi, my name is Sam Cass. I do work around the intersection of food health and climate change,

around trying to forge a better food system.

And I was formerly an assistant chef at the White House, senior

policy advisor for nutrition and the executive director of first ladies let's move campaign.

Am I correct that you oversaw the day-to-day nutrition and cooking routine for the

Obama family?

Yep, so I was cooking for the Obama's in Chicago and came with them and yeah a lot of focus on health.

I wasn't the executive chef so I was in charge of the state dinners and those kind of things but I was

responsible for family dinner.

I read that President Obama was, it was the first administration that had brewing in the White House.

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