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Choiceology with Katy Milkman

Bonus: A Sit Down With Katy Milkman & Angela Duckworth

Choiceology with Katy Milkman

Charles Schwab

Behavioral Economics, Society & Culture, Social Sciences, Decision Making, Charles Schwab, Business, Science, Investing, Dan Heath, Katy Milkman

4.81.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 October 2025

⏱️ 34 minutes

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Summary

From the Choiceology episode "The Power of Self-Control," experience Katy's full interview with Angela Duckworth, where they explore the relationship between self-control and grit.

Transcript

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0:00.0

For a lot of my life, when things weren't going well, I would say, you know, what is wrong with me?

0:14.3

Like, I'm not getting this worked on. What's wrong with me? And now I say, what's wrong with my situation?

0:19.4

Right? Like, this isn't getting done.

0:21.3

Like, I keep procrastinating.

0:22.5

What's wrong with my situation?

0:23.6

Is the task undefined?

0:25.0

Do I need more advice?

0:26.3

Am I not sleeping enough?

0:27.9

Like, what's wrong with my situation?

0:30.4

And I feel like it is a much more productive question to ask because it leads you to solutions.

0:39.4

That was Angela Duckworth, who is my guest on this special video edition of Choiceology.

0:45.1

And I'm Katie Milkman, professor at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

0:49.6

I'm hosting Angela, who's my colleague here at Wharton.

0:52.7

She's also a professor in the Department

0:54.3

of Psychology. She is the number one New York Times bestselling author of the book Grit,

0:59.8

the winner of the MacArthur Genius Award, and also my co-director of the Behavior Change for

1:05.3

Good Initiative. Today we're going to have a wide-ranging conversation about self-control

1:10.1

as a trait.

1:12.1

What does it predict?

1:15.4

Is it different for us in different domains?

1:17.8

And how can we get better at self-control?

1:19.4

I really hope you'll enjoy.

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