So I had the pleasure of meeting Maya Shanker at Ted. That's right. We are both

Ted speakers in 2023. We were both nervous and somehow we came upon each other and said,

wait, I think I recognize you.

And we just struck up a conversation.

Maya is the best.

She's one of those people that is so many things at once.

She's brilliant, she's thoughtful, she's reflective, she's so warm and so generous. She's a cheerleader. She's a thought leader and she is the host of a slight change of plans,

which was named Best Show of the Year by Apple in 2021. of

plans which was named Best Show of the Year by Apple in 2021.

Her show features intensely honest conversations with people whose lives have been upended by a big change like illness, loss, disaster, heartbreak, and this season, the show is focused on parenthood and we all know that that is an ultimate big change in our life.

I was invited to talk to Maya for this series on Parenthood

and I want to share the episode with you today, right here.

After listening, please know you can follow a slight change of plans, wherever you

listen to podcasts, to hear Maya's other conversations.

I recommend the one with Brennay Brown about her

evolving relationship with parenting, the one with Professor Allison Gopnick on the

science of how babies learn and what that can teach us about creativity and other stories from other parents.

I just know you're going to love Maya show as much as I do. You can find a slight change of

plans wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, big, exciting announcement.

We are giving the Good Inside Potty program away for free.

That's right.

Get our two steps for potty success.

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