Hello, Wienabbers. My name is Jesse Meekham, and this is a special

podcast episode for Wienab, where we teach you four rules to help you stop

living paycheck to paycheck, get out of debt and save more money today. I'm talking

with Celia Burton who found

Wiena after having her second baby and going into debt trying to adjust to life

on one salary. I love Celia and her husband Corey's story because they don't make six figures.

They didn't get a windfall, they didn't get a big raise, they just got control of their money

and learned to prioritize for what really matters most to them.

And it changed everything.

See you and Corrie are one of the success stories featured in my new book.

You need a budget which you do and just one of the many many reasons I think you

find the book full of applicable motivation.

Let's go over to Celia.

Okay, I'm here with Celia and and Celia, your story is in the upcoming book. You need a budget.

So thanks for letting us put it in the book, first of all.

No problem.

And tell us, I guess guess walk everyone back as far as you'd like and just kind of give everyone a high level

Kind of start for your story.

Okay, we, I was a teacher and my husband's a lab guy,

he works in a lab at various different jobs. And when we were pregnant with our second,

I was in a school situation that wasn't working out.

And the cost of child care around here turns out

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