But when I really learned what dark motivation was, is dark motivation drove me to the top,

but dark only focuses on the result.

So much so that I got to the top of the mountain, I had not even contemplated that I got to get

fucking down.

So dark motivation literally drove me to the top.

And then I had the first panic attack I've ever had in

my entire life at the summit of Kilimanjaro that almost was like, they thought I was dying at

first because it was like, holy fuck, I got to go down now. All right, brother Bonner, how are you

doing, man? What's going on, brother? I'm doing really good.

You know, when you reached out to me about coming on the show, it was interesting because I was like, well, yes, of course.

And it felt like good timing. We have known each other for a while. And I'll let you talk about

whatever parts of that along this

conversation you you want to get into but it's just an honor to be here and you have an incredible

story you're an incredible human I couldn't be more honored to know you and so I'm excited to

dive into this conversation thank you. You're trying to give me

emotional already, man. I'd tell you. Like, yeah, no, it's true. That's the superpower, right?

My team says my superpower is just making people cry.

I've been on the receiving end of that. I think you've seen me cry more than almost any other

human on this earth.

Yeah, it's like, you know, at first when I heard that the first couple of times, I was like,

you know, if people heard that, they could take that the wrong way, you know, there's like,

there's making people cry in a beautiful, necessary releasing way. And then there's making people cry and like being complete ass

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