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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

Boiling point! How heat will shape the future

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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Politics, Government, Society & Culture, News

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 25 July 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

As our climate continues to heat up, wildfires, flooding and drought are becoming the new normal. But beyond weather events, how is extreme heat affecting our politics, economy, and society at large – and have we already reached a boiling point? Alex Andreou asks Jeff Goodell, Senior Fellow at the Atlantic Council and author of The Heat Will Kill You First.   Buy The Heat Will Kill You First through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund [name of podcast] by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too.   We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.   www.patreon.com/bunkercast   Written and presented by Alex Andreou. Produced by Eliza Davis Beard. Audio production by Tom Taylor. Managing Editor Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor Andrew Harrison. Art by James Parrett. Music by Kenny Dickinson. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production   www.podmasters.co.uk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:06.0

Join me, Philip Alam, on the Pension Confident Podcast as we explore how you can navigate the cost of living crisis and how your financial personality

0:15.6

or even your relationship status can impact on your spending and savings habits.

0:20.5

Stream the Pension Confident Podcast today wherever you get your podcast. Hello and welcome to the bunker daily I am your host Alex Andro.

0:38.4

In the long run extreme heat is an extinction force. All life has a temperature limit, even the

0:46.6

microbes that thrive in the thermal vents at the bottom of the ocean, even things

0:51.1

that aren't alive like your phone or the server farms that power the internet.

0:56.0

They have limits.

0:57.0

Those are the words of today's guest, a journalist and award-winning author who has covered climate change for more than two decades.

1:04.8

From his cheerily titled latest volume, The Heat Will Kill You First.

1:09.4

Welcome to the banker Jeff Goodall.

1:11.4

Thank you for having me. Jeff, you say that one of your primary aims in writing the book is to make the reader think of heat differently.

1:21.0

Because culturally people, especially people who live in their sort of developed largely

1:27.7

temperate zones in the northern hemisphere, tend to think of heat as a desirable thing.

1:33.6

How much of an obstacle is that actually?

1:37.6

I think it's a huge obstacle.

1:39.4

We do think of heat as a desirable thing. I think a lot of people, you know, when they go on vacations, they want to go to the beach, they want to go to a warm place, they want to put on a bathing suit and flip-flops and lay in the sun, it feels good.

1:52.8

And, you know, our perceptions about heat

1:56.3

are further kind of tweaked by the way

1:59.2

we use the words in our language, you know,

2:02.2

if you go to a bar and you meet an attractive person

2:06.6

sometimes you call them hot right you know the way our media covers heat is by showing not images of people in emergency rooms with

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