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Top Traders Unplugged

BO90: Can AI Trading Models Really Work?

Top Traders Unplugged

Niels Kaastrup-Larsen

Business, Business News, Investing, News

4.8670 Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2020

⏱️ 5 minutes

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Thoughts on AI trading systems, and how they handled the crash of 2020.

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0:00.0

One thing actually that I wanted your opinion about before, I'm sure Moritz might ask you a few more questions, is just the whole concept of AI.

0:14.3

I mean, I'm super curious to see how AI models have conned through the last two weeks because this is data that those bottles

0:22.2

probably wouldn't have seen before.

0:26.1

Do you have a view on AI?

0:28.4

Do you like it?

0:29.5

Do you hate it?

0:31.5

Neutral?

0:32.7

I mean, I think it's fairly well known that I'm not a big fan of AI.

0:37.1

And I kind of put my cards on the table and say, partly that's down to ignorance.

0:42.3

It's not a space that I understand that well.

0:45.3

It's also partly down to the bias of having seen people use these more complicated techniques,

0:52.3

the things like AI machine learning neural networks,

0:55.0

judging algorithms.

0:56.0

I've seen a lot of people do some very kind of massive degree of overfitting using these techniques.

1:02.0

And I think the real danger is that there are people, most of the people I've seen using them

1:07.0

do not have a good kind of robust background in sort of classical statistics that underlies them.

1:13.6

And they don't really have a good intuitive understanding about robustness and overfitting.

1:19.6

And so they use these models and it's like giving a three-year-old, you know, a nuclear weapon.

1:25.6

You know, it's just dangerous. Now there are people in the

1:29.7

space who really know what they're doing and are using AI very intelligently. But, you know,

1:37.4

you go and speak to these guys and it's obvious that it's a fiercely complicated business. And,

1:43.5

you know, the kind of person off the street who's downloaded some kind of open source, you know,

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