BND Guest Double Feature: Theodore Wold, Former White House Deputy Assistant for Domestic Policy under President Trump & Frances Martel, Breitbart World Editor
The Breitbart News Daily Podcast
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🗓️ 2 April 2026
⏱️ 41 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Thank you to bright, bright part, news daily. We do a three-hour radio show on Sirius XM every day. We give you two segments here for free, and we had a full, busy, great show today. We talked to Tommy Pickett from the State Department about Trump's speech last night and latest in Venezuela, and they're also trying to hire people for the foreign service. They put out an advertising. It made me want to join the, become a foreign service officer. I did a great job with that. We talked to the wonderful |
| 0:40.3 | Francis Martel. We'll replay her interview in a moment because she's the best. We talked to |
| 0:44.4 | Jim Campbell. He argued in front of the Supreme Court, the case that we got the ruling on 8 to 1. |
| 0:50.2 | Huge victory. This is about the Colorado First Amendment telling therapists what they're not allowed to say about children with gender dysmorphia. |
| 0:58.3 | And we won that, 8 to 1. We got to celebrate our victories. So we did that with Jim. |
| 1:02.2 | Then we're going to play right now our interview with Theodore. |
| 1:06.5 | Theo. I combine Theodore and Theo. Theo Wald, he is the guy who wrote the executive order that led to the Supreme Court oral arguments yesterday. |
| 1:18.6 | Who better to talk to? Maybe the only person better to talk to would be John Eastman. He's the guy who for the last 20 years has been putting this into the environment, into the atmosphere, that it's something we should discuss. |
| 1:30.0 | And we're going to talk to him tomorrow at 8 o'clock. |
| 1:32.6 | But I know you will enjoy Theo Wald. Wonderful to talk to our next guest whenever I see him on my Twitter. |
| 1:59.7 | He's first class Twitterer, just the top, top A, |
| 2:03.2 | one-A Twitter. And the Twitter account is real Theo Wald. But whenever it shows up on my Twitter, |
| 2:11.2 | I always think it's something from Theo Vaughn's podcast. They could be like Theo Vaughn World or something. |
| 2:18.1 | That's my first, and I thought that for the longest time, I thought I was following a Theo Vaughn account until I realized that he was the former assistant attorney general and former White House deputy assistant for domestic policy under President Trump and help draft the original executive order against birthright citizen. I was like, oh, this guy's nothing to do with Theo Vaughn, but his name's Theo Wald. Mr. Wald, how do you do, sir? I'm doing good, Mike. How are you? I don't know if I'm the only one who's made that mistake before between you and Theo Vaughn. Apologies, if I am. No, I got a quick, funny story I had a good friend who saw uh Tucker at a |
| 2:54.1 | hotel and he goes up to Tucker and he says Tucker a huge fan you know we have a mutual friend in |
| 3:00.2 | common uh my my friend Theo and Tucker says oh I love Theo he's so funny he's like yeah he just |
| 3:06.0 | he loves being out in Idaho and he's like Theo he loves being out in Idaho. And he's like, Theo, Vaugh, out in Idaho? Like the old. He's like, oh, yeah, you know, Theo, well, he's good too. He's not very funny, but he's good to. There's two Theo's in the world, but if you had to be one of the top two, I think that's fine. So what was your role in birthright citizenship? |
| 3:26.4 | Yeah, so birthright was, I mean, it was essentially my baby for two years. |
| 3:32.8 | So I drafted the original executive order, and that was assigned to me by Stephen Miller, |
| 3:40.3 | and had to navigate that through the rapids of the internal processes of the White House. |
| 3:46.6 | You know, everyone always thinks that the White House is full of people who all get along and it's all hunky dory and everyone's on the same team. |
| 3:52.9 | But White House Counsel's Office at that time was deeply, deeply hostile to the idea of birthright citizenship, |
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