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Hello and welcome to the edition podcast where each week we take a look at some of the articles from the magazine with the writers behind them. I'm Laura Prendergars, the Spectators

Executive Editor. And I'm William Moore, the Spectators Features Editor. On this week's

episode, we'll be looking at the Tory leadership fight and who might be likely to make the final two.

Plus, we'll be talking about where the parents should buy into Stonewall's gospel.

And finally, we'll look at what the metaverse is.

First up, our editor, Fraser Nelson, has written this week's cover piece about the Tory leadership race.

He joins us now, along with the telegraphs, Alison Pearson.

Fraser, you write about the cloak and dagger of the Tory party leadership race.

What have you made of the race so far?

Is it a contest that is more about character assassinations than it is policy platform?

I have to say I've been very disappointed

by the quality of the conversation so far. The Conservatives are in a big old mess right now.

They're the party supposedly devoted to small government lower taxes. They've ended up delivering

the exact opposite and they're not sure why. Now, I've been listening to

all of the various pitches. It's very easy for them to say we want lower taxes. Of course, that was

Boris Johnson's problem. He wanted lower taxes too. His journalistic spirit, it was willing,

but the governmental flesh proved weak. Now, we need somebody who's going to be able to deliver on

that. And none of the

explanations have struck me as being particularly convincing. What these Tories are very good at is

attacking each other. So we've got briefing documents. There was a briefing document attacking

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