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Welcome back to the Lincoln Project. I'm your host, Reid Galen. Today, I'm joined by

Miles Taylor, a national security expert who previously served as chief of staff at the

U.S. Department of Homeland Security. While at DHS, he published an anonymous essay in

the New York Times, blowing the whistle on presidential misconduct by Donald Trump, he later

published the number one national bestseller, A Warning, which revealed himself to be the author

of the anonymous essay and launched a campaign of ex-officials to oppose Donald Trump's

election. In addition to his time at DHS, he worked as an advisor in the George W. Bush

administration on Capitol Hill as a CNN contributor and multiple democracy reformers. His latest

book is Blowback, a warning to save democracy from the next Trump, and is available wherever

fine books are sold. And he also has a brand new podcast, The Whistleblowers, Inside the Trump

Administration, which can be heard on your favorite podcast app. Today, he's coming to us

live on the road from his book tour in Nashville, Tennessee. Miles, welcome.

Hey, Reid, thanks for having me. And if you hear people laughing in the background, they're

probably laughing at my expense somewhere down there at the book signing. No, listen, I get it.

I've spent my life being laughed at at my expense. So Miles, thank you for joining me. So,

you know, you've got your new book out. And as I was reading it, you and I were talking right

before we started recording that there is a lot of candor in this book. And I think that that

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