Hello again and welcome to another segment of the grassy and all on this February 21st.

That's when we were recording this, 2005.

And with us today is Craig Heidnbittner, author of Blood on the Altar, the Secret History

of the World's Most Dangerous Secret Society.

And welcome to the Grassy and All, Craig.

Thank you, Keith.

If I would have said to people, or I would pose this question to people,

who is the world's most dangerous secret society?

You might get a couple of answers.

That's true.

But what's your answer?

Who are they, and why are they the most dangerous?

Well, my answer is pretty clear if you read the book.

It's the Ordo Templi Orientus, which means order of Oriental Templars, and it's usually just abbreviated

as the OTO. Most people have never heard of them, and a few books have had references to the

OTO over the years, but nobody's ever actually done a book-length expose and put in

research on their actual documents within their order to expose them.

But what they are, in essence, is a Masonic Academy.

That's how they styled themselves when they got going about 100 years ago,

and Academia, Masonica, sort of a graduate school for Freemasons.

And the reason they're the most dangerous secret society

is partly because of their behind-the-scenes role,

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