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Blockbusters: DACA and Title VII

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🗓️ 20 June 2020

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Dahlia Lithwick is joined by Luis Cortes Romero, the attorney and DACA recipient who was part of the team that prevailed in this week’s DACA ruling. He will restore some of your faith in the American courts. And then Dahlia talks to Professor Pam Karlan about this week’s landmark LGBTQ employment rights case, in which she argued successfully for Title VII protections to apply to gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender employees.

In the Slate Plus segment, Mark Joseph Stern tries to help Dahlia figure out who this new Chief Justice John Roberts is and what that can tell us about the remaining (huge) opinions still to be issued this term.

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0:00.0

I felt so vindicated that we accomplished what we set out to do in 2017, which was to not just protect DACA, but to really change the way that we see and how we define what it means to be American.

0:19.5

It's an opinion that in its, in its understated way,

0:23.5

recognizes the equality of LGBT Americans every bit as much as the opinions of Justice

0:30.8

Kennedy did.

0:33.8

Hi, and welcome back to Amicus.

0:36.3

This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the Supreme Court and the rule of law and the Constitution, all that good stuff.

0:43.8

I'm Dahlia Lithwick.

0:45.1

I cover some of that good stuff for Slate, and this week represented a truly extraordinary week.

0:50.7

It was an extraordinary week for LGBTQ Americans, for 700,000 dreamers. For so many people,

0:59.4

with blockbuster decisions landing in the midst of continued lockdowns, discontinued lockdowns,

1:05.3

mass protest, generalized national anxiety. We're going to spend some time really thinking about what that means.

1:12.7

Later on in the show, Slate Plus members will get to catch up with Mark Joseph Stern on the Supreme

1:17.3

Court term that is circling, circling to a close above us. But we never know when it will end.

1:22.7

And he's going to try to answer the question, who is this new John Roberts? Beyond the headline decisions,

1:30.0

the High Court swatted away a raft of gun cases, a challenge to sanctuary city's laws,

1:35.0

and some opportunities to revisit its qualified immunity doctrine. That's been a shield for

1:40.1

police accountability. It's persisted for decades over the objections of several justices

1:45.3

and a surprisingly bipartisan group of critics, but the court did not want to play. We're also

1:52.5

seeing inspectors general and career officials pushed out of oversight positions in the Trump

1:57.6

administration. That means that even the minimal accountability that's

2:01.6

been used to check this executive is sliding away. We also saw Bill Boris Justice Department

2:07.2

file a deeply strange civil lawsuit to try to halt publication of John Bolton's new book,

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