Oh. Hi and welcome to the working songwriter the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask

them to go deep on their inspiration on their process on the general ups and

downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran

who still uses rack-mounted effects

instead of foot pedals at your live show,

or else a scrappy upstart who uses pre-recorded loops running off a

constantly buffering laptop. This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer seeks

most an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing. Hey everybody it's the last Friday of September 2024 and I thank you for joining us. This week show is brought to you by

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