Hi. Hi and welcome to the working songwriter. The show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran

fighting with Ticketmaster to rescind $40 fees

on your concert tickets, or else a scrappy upstart, fighting with the show promoter to get three extra drink

tickets for your band. This is your show because ultimately it is what every writer

seeks most an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing. Hey everybody it's the third Friday of September 2024 and I thank you for joining us

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