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Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

Black Political Power and Jesse Jackson, With Abby Phillip! Plus, Elections Galore and a Red Alert for Hip-Hop. | Higher Learning | The Ringer

Higher Learning with Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay

The Ringer

Society & Culture

4.811.3K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2025

⏱️ 137 minutes

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Summary

Rachel and Van start the show with a conversation on the Virginia election and intercommunity politics concerning Black Republicans. Then they are joined by Abby Phillip, anchor of 'NewsNight' on CNN, to talk about her latest book, 'A Dream Deferred: Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power.' They end the show by giving their thoughts on the Billboard Hot 100's top 40 not having any rap songs for the first time since 1990. 00:00 - Welcome! 01:27 - Virginia Election Day approaches 16:12 - NYC mayoral race 38:50 - California’s Prop 50 51:58 - Abby Phillip joins us! 1:53:31 - The attack on SNAP benefits and resources 1:56:09 - Billboard Hot 100’s top 40: no rap songs 2:13:31 - Thanks for watching! Hosts: Van Lathan and Rachel Lindsay Guest: Abby Phillip Producers: Donnie Beacham and Ashleigh Smith Video Supervision: Chris Thomas RESOURCES : Detroit Farmers Giving Away Food https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQa5L7jDRa3/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA== LA County Mobilizes Food Assistance as Federal Government Shutdown Continues https://lacounty.gov/2025/10/28/la-county-mobilizes-food-assistance-as-federal-government-shutdown-continues/ SNAP benefits ending: Here's where you can get emergency assistance in Southern California https://www.foxla.com/news/snap-benefits-ending-november-government-shutdown SNAP runs out of money Nov. 1. Here's what that means in your state https://www.npr.org/2025/10/28/g-s1-95189/snap-food-stamps-government-shutdown-november Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Yo, yo, yo, thought warriors.

0:04.0

What is up, how I'm learning is on is Ivan Lakey Jr.

0:06.5

And it's me, Rachel and Lindsay.

0:08.1

Elections.

0:08.6

Abby Phillip is on the show today.

0:10.4

Abby's coming in in a second.

0:11.6

We're going to talk to Abby about, she did a book about Jesse Jackson.

0:15.8

A Dream Deferred.

0:18.0

Jesse Jackson.

0:19.6

Yeah, it's called A Dream Deferred. You said it like that wasn't the Jackson. Yeah. It's called the Dream Defer.

0:22.5

You said like that wasn't the title.

0:24.7

Yeah.

0:25.2

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:25.9

That's the title.

0:26.9

And you're doing something with her later tonight, right?

0:29.1

Later tonight at the California African American Museum, downtown, it's like on

0:33.9

SEs campus next to all the museums and stuff.

0:36.9

Abby's doing a talk about the book. And I moderating the conversation. We'll have fun talking about it. It's Jesse Jackson book. We'll also talk to her about more stuff just like the state of the news. Yeah, yeah. Some of the backlash, all this stuff. Abby's great. We'll talk to her about it. But right now. ready to launch your business? Get started with the commerce

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