Black Mormons Respond to Church Leaders Supporting Racial Segregation? | Ep. 1930
Mormon Stories Podcast
Dr. John Dehlin
4.6 • 5.2K Ratings
🗓️ 19 August 2024
⏱️ 191 minutes
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Summary
Join Nate Byrd, Summer-Rayn, Dr. Darron Smith, and John Dehlin as they tackle the uncomfortable truths of Mormon leaders supporting racial segregation. This episode dives into topics like the European origin theory of the lost ten tribes, the discovery of black ancestry in those who appear white, patriarchs’ treatment of the “Curse of Cain,” and a shocking statement by Mormon prophet Harold B. Lee about closing BYU rather than admitting black students. Featuring clips from the episodes with historian Matthew Harris.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host |
| 0:04.0 | John Delinn. It is August 13th, 2024 and today we are bringing back an all-star panel as far as I'm concerned. We are here again to talk about this |
| 0:15.9 | amazing book, Second Class Saints. We can't get enough of this book. Second Class Saints |
| 0:21.5 | Black Mormons and the Struggle for Racial Equality by Dr Matthew Harris. |
| 0:25.2 | What we've recorded is 17 episodes with Matt Harris talking in depth about the history |
| 0:31.9 | of Black Mormons and the way the church has treated them, doctrines, |
| 0:36.7 | policies, theology, and the treatment of Black Mormons from the beginning of the church |
| 0:41.9 | until present day. |
| 0:44.2 | And while we are proud of those 17 episodes and we tried to get people like Summer and |
| 0:50.8 | Nate and Darren on those episodes. |
| 0:53.8 | We really also wanted to sort of every three episodes or so allow a panel of Black Mormons |
| 1:01.5 | slash X Mormons to just react to the book into the series and it's |
| 1:06.8 | been such a fun thing for me so we have back with us today Summer Rain hey Summer |
| 1:11.5 | Rain hello hello thanks for joining us again. |
| 1:14.0 | Thanks for having me. |
| 1:16.0 | Summer, do you want to just tell people in 30 seconds who you are and what you do? |
| 1:20.0 | Sure. My name is Summer Rain. My parents converted to church when I was three. My father is a congressman of Utah, District 4, Burgess Owens, so I work for him in his campaign. |
| 1:34.0 | Regarding Church, I am what they call Pimo, physically and mentally out. |
| 1:39.7 | So I am a member of record. |
| 1:41.4 | I do attend church. My husband is a believing member so we still take our kids a church but I don't |
| 1:47.7 | believe the truth claims. |
| 1:49.2 | All right well we're so glad you're with us. |
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