I won't tell you that it's gonna be okay.

I won't tell you that it's going to be okay.

And welcome to another episode of the Bakari Sellers podcast today.

We got my friend and who is just a brilliant political mind, a great journalist, and now I can actually say an amazing author,

none other than Natasha Alfred. How are you today?

I am awesome. Bicari, you know you're my big brother in my head, right?

So this is like just sitting down talking to my big brother in the business.

You've always looked out for me.

You've never been stingy with advice, you know, connections. I mean, you are the ultimate example of somebody

who opens the door for others to come behind you. So I'm honored to be here.

And you make us proud. I your moment a few weeks ago on

national TV it went viral I think was just a I mean it was God working he was

winking at us because I don't necessarily think it was a

coincidence but he was winking and then here you have your book out American Negra but

before we get into that I my show I like to ask all of my guests the same first question, which is to walk us through the arc of their career.

And you worked in finance journalism, you're an author and an advocate.

Walk us through your career arc to the work you do now with the

Griot and CNN. I mean the journey to get here is really the crux of the book, right? This is a message

about we're told this this is what success looks like in America. You know, it's making good money, is going to that cubicle job. And so my first job was at a hedge fund. I worked for the largest institutional

hedge fund in the world, Bridgewater Associates, and I thought I was going to

business school. You know, I thought that I would somehow be some kind of

corporate leader or a leader in some sense.

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