I think I was the piece of the puzzle that they were missing. And between me and Sonia Warfield,

the writer, Erica Dunbar, who is the black historian on it, and then obviously Deney being

very protective of that character, we were able together to kind of steer this ship to give it the nuance.

Because I always say you need more than one in the room. My black perspective is different than

Dene's. It's different than Eric because I cannot speak for all black people, nor can they.

So that's what gives it the layers of all of us having those experiences.

Hi, I'm Eric. And I'm Brittany. And this is for colored nerds. The weekly show where we peel back the layers of black culture that we rarely discuss in mixed company.

Today's episode is about black characters and period dramas. You might know a few fan favorites,

Hamilton, the Great Bridgetton, and The Gilded Age. Join us as we chat with Martin Powers,

host of Post Reports, The Washington Post's Daily News Podcast, and period drama superfan.

We'll talk all about what works and what doesn't in these shows.

And after that, we have an amazing interview with director and executive producer of the Gilded Age, Sally Richardson Whitfield.

All that and more after the break.

So Eric, even though this episode is about period pieces, you have not always been on board with this genre.

That's probably putting it lightly. I was a hater. I was not into it.

The pomp and circumstance, it was hard for me to get through.

And then also, they're typically very white.

That's true.

The content in general is typically very, very white.

And also connected to a level of wealth that is hard for me to fathom. But that said,

I think I was probably wrong. And there's some good stuff in there. I would not. I've come around.

How did you come around? I would say a few things. So one, I saw the favorite and just the favorite

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