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The Chewjitsu Podcast

BJJ Black Belt and Founder of "Tap Cancer Out" Jon Thomas (Episode 381)

The Chewjitsu Podcast

Eugene Tsozik

Sports, Wrestling

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 94 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of the podcast, we are joined by BJJ Black Belt and Founder of the non-profit organization "Tap Cancer Out."

Jon discusses starting Jiu-Jitsu in 2008, why earning a blue belt had significant meaning, dealing with "imposter syndrome" in BJJ, how "Tap Cancer Out" started and the process of running a tournament, the challenges of running a Jiu-Jitsu non-profit business, finding the best beneficiaries to support cancer, the importance of delegating and having a strong team, the "feel" of a "Tap Cancer Out" tournament, the idea of "more than medals, " masculinity and "bro-ism" in Jiu-Jitsu, growing funding for cancer research outside of tournaments through "Global Grappling Day," how to fund raise for "Tap Cancer Out," and goals for the future.

You can get more information on tournaments and how to get involved at https://tapcancerout.org/

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Transcript

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0:00.0

What up, guys? Welcome to the Chiu-Jitsu podcast. Today, we're going to talk to John from Tapp Cancerality,

0:05.2

he's one of the founders of the organization. And I met him originally down in Costa Rica. So we were,

0:11.0

you know, I was there for the Costa Rica camp that I do and got in and, you know, he was there

0:16.8

training with Ron down in Tamarindo and started chatting and you know we both run competitions

0:23.1

and you know so we're talking about that kind of stuff talking about the business

0:26.8

behind the scene stuff and then I saw him again out in or saw his team out in Vegas he sent

0:31.8

me a message on Instagram afterwards because I was out there for the CGI right I see you out

0:36.8

there for the CJA and they were they had a booth out there and everything else I was out there for the CGI right I see you out there for the CJA and

0:37.7

they were they had a booth out there and everything else and I was talking to his team and after I was done talking to his team he sent me a message and you know was just reaching out so I was like me why don't we just have you on and just to talk about what you're doing right because I think it's interesting I think they're probably one of the the the largest probably the largest you know

0:54.2

fundraising sort of thing

0:56.3

and Jiu Jitsu Char of thing in Jiu Jitsu charitable event in Jiu Jitsu that, you know, it's raised a ton of money. And so figure we'd have them on to talk about that, kind of see how you got started with Jiu Jitsu, but also talk about his organization in case you're interested in competing one of his competitions or just want to know more about it. If you've probably probably seen TAP cancer out somewhere like I have and, you know, maybe you want to know more about the organization. So we'll jump into it. Thank you guys for being here as always. Big thanks to our sponsors for helping support the podcast. Charlott's Web CBD, if you guys that haven't checked them out before, check them out at their website at charlesweb.com. That's the website. And again, they have,

1:27.6

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1:33.2

they were making it before everybody, you know, had a CBD company. And again, they hold their,

1:37.7

their products to a very high standard of third party testing, which not a lot of companies do.

1:42.7

And they also have a lot of different products, everything from the traditional CBD products to CBN products, which is a different cannabinoid. That one, they typically use related to sleep. There's other things that they have like functional mushroom products, a ton of different stuff, balms and rubs, everything else. I like the product. I've used it off and on for years. Again, I just, as a person, I just tend to like cycle off of things periodically, just to be like, okay, like, except for my thyroid medication. My thyroid medication has been pretty consistent. I'm not getting off that. Whatever, but with most supplements, even like protein sometimes, I'll just like clear. I will stop using protein powder for just a little bit.

2:18.9

You know, just I don't know why.

2:20.0

I just that's at my person that I am. But again, been using the products for a long time. I find value in them. Typically for me, it's more of a recovery thing. So it's one of the things that I have my, my tool belt for helping improve my recovery as an older grappler. So me again, as we get older, it's just the nature of the beast.

2:35.1

Father time plays this cruel trick on you where you're smarter, you're more my recovery as an older grappler. So me again, as we get older, it's just the nature of the beast.

3:42.1

Father time plays this cruel trick on you where you're smarter, you're more intelligent, you're more knowledgeable, but your body doesn't work like you used to. You've been losing a step. You can't quite explain what it is, but your body just doesn't function like it used to, and your snap, crack, and pop and getting out of bed, you don't sleep as well well, the whole deal. And so CBD, for me, seems to assist in those functions, everything from rest and relaxation and just recovery in general. So I take it with bedtime and I tend to find value there. If you want to try it out for a month and see what you think, go to the website at charlesweb.com. You can get whatever product you want from them. Try it out for a month and you can save 30% with the promo code, Chiu-Jitsu 30 for 30% off the order. Also, thanks to our buddies over at Epicroll. EpicRoll, BGJ.com is the website. They make a ton of terrific products. All of my Chichitsu rash guards currently are being made through them. Again, really good quality stuff. And again, all of the stuff that he makes on his website, great quality stuff, good designs. And again, they're a jih Tjitsu company that's made by Jiu-Jitsu practitioners, Blackbelts, who train the whole deal opposed to say there are some companies out there that are, you may have seen them. I'm not going to name names, but a lot of times it's just kind of like they're making a buck. They're like, okay, like, hey, like we, we've researched this and we're going to just try to squeeze some money out of these jiu jitsu guys and we could care less about supporting the community and everything else. We're just going to rank some dough in. But again, Matt is one of the founders, one of our friends, and he's been operating the company for a long time.

3:57.7

And again, it's a cool company.

3:58.6

So if you guys want to get some new gear, Rashgard shorts, t-shirts, Matt is one of the founders, one of our friends, and he's been operating the company for a long time.

3:58.6

And again, it's a cool company.

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