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Charlwood, History Harlot and Readerlot and reader of books well it's been an

interesting couple of days Ireland got knocked out of the Eurovision but that's because the song

wasn't really anything like it wasn't great it was fine like it was a fine song but it wasn't

anything exciting.

So the way I see it is, if you're going to do Eurovision, right,

what you need to do is get-lalde.

You have to go for it.

You want to do a ballad, make it a proper ballad, make it really sad, really lean into it, right?

Or make it really empowering.

But if you're going to go, like, popier or rocking, like you have to go fill pop, fill rock, and it should be fun.

I love it when there's something like silly and fun or exciting and weird and wacky.

What my mum calls me. She's like, you're going to love this.

It's Portugal. And I'm like, is she weird? Which is my automatic response? And I turn around.

And she's wearing an entire skirt made out of feathers, red feathers. And I'm like,

I could make that outfit. I could wear that outfit, because that's who I

am as a person. I watch Eurovision and go, I could get away with that outfit because of who I am as a

person. That's, that's just me though. I'm a Eurovision fan. I didn't like it for years because it got

really serious. I don't need Eurovision to be serious. I'm a Eurovision fan. I didn't like it for years because it got really serious.

I don't need Eurovision to be serious. I need Eurovision to be a bubble.

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