Hello, everyone, and welcome to talk nerdy. Today is Monday, June 1st, 2026, and I'm the host of the show, Dr. Kara Santa Maria.

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So today I had the opportunity to chat with Dr. Jenny Durant. She is a freelance writer and affiliate researcher at

UC Davis, and she focuses on bees, agriculture, and the environment. And she has a new book

out. It's called Bitter Honey, Big Ags Threat to Bees and the Fight to Save Them. So without any further ado,

here she is Dr. Jenny Durant. Well, Jenny, thank you so much for joining me today.

Thanks, Kara. It's a pleasure to be here. So I'm excited to talk about your new book, Bitter Honey, Big Ags Threat to Bees and the

fight to Save Them. I'm also, I'm just excited to be talking to somebody who does a lot of, you know,

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