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Com. And the Welcome to the big interview bite size. I'm Graham Hunter and in each episode

you'll hear an elite footballer tell a story that's guaranteed to brighten your day.

All of them come from my podcast, The Big Interview with Graham Hunter,

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He was 10 years ahead of anybody because if he was a manager he was 10 years ahead of anybody because if he was a manager now and the way he wanted to play, it was the way Arsenvenga when he comes to

Arsenal and changed him dramatically, but we used to play and he would not let, he would tell Eric Tor's bed, do not kick the ball

on, play out from the back. For us at the beginning, for me I loved it. I mean, but it was like, wow, what's all this about? Because when we used to play, the first thing would be first 10, 15, 20 minutes, kicked the ball long, and we're playing there off.

Because he went, no, no, no, no, no, no,

play out from the back, from the beginning.

And he played me as a Peabotti, number six,

like where Bouququet's plays or and he said, Vin, everything comes through you,

everything. Get it off the back fore and start a dictate the play. It was like, I died and gone to heaven. It was like, wow, this for me is total football.

Yeah, we struggled at times. Don't get me wrong, we had some bad defeats but it was like if you

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