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the big interview with Graham Hunter, which you can find by searching on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. What I would, one of the privileges that we lack in modern journalism is to do and the people who listen to my series would board about me going on about this, but one of the reasons I moved to Spain was you could go and watch as a journalist, you could go and watch training because training is at least as fascinating as matches

and it's the bedrock of how a group unites, plays intelligently and wins.

Training under Chavi is to me pretty fascinating and I'm lucky a couple weeks back.

He gave us a privilege of watching half an hour.

One of the things that I really want to understand is what they call

here the Huegos and Sociotivos where there are games it looks like a summer camp.

Yeah yeah yeah let's pretend to play basketball or there's six guys and you've got to put the ball in the dustbin

after you've used both shoulders or now it just looks like massive fun and like a

summer camp but what does it do to you?

Why are you using these?

I think it's really intelligent day doing this because it's all about coming close together.

You know, if you, as players, as persons, as having fun together,

if you just start, yeah, with the warm-up and then you start doing the technical things and that's it.

You're just it's like I cannot say this is like another day at work but it's

different you know it they try to every day they try to or every day

every day they try to do other games and and and try to keep yeah I have cognitive

cognitive co

would it be a cognitive so in other words yeah yeah cognitive

games you think and adapt on everything and to keep your also, you think your brain sharp.

Sharp and then, and also what I said, bringing us closer together and letting us have some fun as well.

But in these games, you truly, whether it's 4 v 4 or 5 v5 and sometimes it's against a stopwatch you truly compete right yeah and that's

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