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Com. And Welcome to the big interview bite size. I'm Graham Hunter and in each episode you'll hear an elite footballer tell a story that's

guaranteed to brighten your day. All of them will come from my podcast, The Big

Interview with Graham Hunter, which you can find by searching on Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

In Sport, not many of these genius Mavericks can tell you how they do it. They just do it. and the mind of a genius and breaks down exactly how he perfected the technique that made fools of

defenders. You've used a phrase body language and which I know you meant it in a different

way but it's part of the reason that we're all here today talking to you in that

I warned you before this chat I'd say

things that would embarrass you but these are sincere I think that in many ways you

were England's sedan I compare your balance and your vision and your ability with the ball and what you did with the ball

But what you could do to other people around you which was pretty special but another thing that annoys me is when I read people writing about

you and there was enigmatic or language which wasn't true. I think we were very, very fast with the ball which is a

rare trick and you reminded me of Michael Loudrop. It is ability to go past people at a fair physique too.

Like, but are you able to define how you do the things you do with not with the ball but dropping the shoulder or

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