You kind of put computer in the sentence and people who would know like, whoa, I should really be concerned about that, can just turn around and, you know, all of a sudden be like, well, of course we don't want government interfering. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us.

I'm your host, Paris Marks.

And before we get to this week's guest, a special announcement,

I've had people asking me for quite a while now

when we were going to get Tech Won't Save Us t-shirts.

So if that is something you're interested in,

if you want to support the podcast logo on your chest, that is now an option you can avail of.

I'm using a company called Bonfire for a few reasons. Firstly, I know people who've used them

before and they tell me that it's a good quality t-shirt. Second, it was an easy way to offer

a lot of different

sizes for people because I looked at a few different options and some of them made that kind of

difficult. And third, it's kind of difficult for me to manage fulfillment of T-shirts right now

if I were to get them made myself. So this is an easy way, at least for now, to use this company

that will, you know, make the t-shirts, manage the fulfillment.

So how this works is when you buy a t-shirt from Bonfire, they kind of do them in batches.

So, you know, if you buy one today, it's not going to ship tomorrow. It'll take a couple

weeks until this batch is complete. So if you buy one in this kind of first wave, they'll start

to ship around mid-July, I believe. And so then hopefully by around the

end of the month or early August at the latest, you'll get your t-shirt. There are a couple options.

There is a black t-shirt with a red logo. That's the one I'll be getting. But then for people who

do prefer to wear colorful clothes, which is not me, there's also a t-shirt with a black logo and a number of different

colored shirts that you can choose from for that as well. So you can obviously find the links for

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