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The Pomp Podcast

Bitcoin Falls While Government Shutdown Looms

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Business, Investing

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 30 September 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Anthony and John Pompliano discuss why bitcoin's price is not going up faster, what is going on with gold, how Wall Street is embracing crypto public equities, how we fix economic data, and should we be worried about the government shutdown?

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Timestamps:

  • 0:00 - Intro
  • 0:22 - What’s happening with bitcoin’s price?
  • 4:45 - How should investors be thinking about Bitcoin?
  • 9:16 - Bitcoin related public companies
  • 15:35 - Regulation in crypto
  • 19:52 - Potential government shutdown
  • 27:56 - Government data is wrong
  • 34:03 - Government using private market data

Transcript

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Get started today at banta.com. What's going on, guys? Today we got a great episode with John Pompiliano. In this conversation, we talk about why is Bitcoin's price not going up faster? What's going on with gold? How are crypto public equities being received by Wall Street? What's going on with the government shutdown? Is it going to happen? should you be worried. And then we also talk a little bit about economic data, why it's so bad and how we could fix it, all that and much more in this conversation with John Pompeiano. All right, John, what we got? All right. What's going on with Bitcoin's price? Not going higher. That's the first thing. Look, I think that people are very worried about Bitcoin's price

1:27.6

because it's not so much just about what is Bitcoin's price doing. They're worried about the

1:32.4

relative performance because they see stocks going higher. They see gold going higher. They see

1:37.0

the interest rate cuts happening. They hear about government spending. All of these things

1:41.4

that are occurring in the economy and in financial markets. And they're saying, wait a minute, this Bitcoin thing is supposed to be higher, it's not. Now, what is it, a lead course? So not so fast. Let me explain this real quick. If you go back to November of last year, November 1st, Bitcoin was $69,000. Today, it is 112, $15,000 depending on the day.

2:03.6

That's pretty good performance in less than one year.

2:08.6

But if you go back even further to January of 2024, when the ETFs got approved,

2:10.7

Bitcoin was around $40,000.

2:16.6

So Bitcoin has appreciated almost 300% in 18 months, and people are disappointed.

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