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🗓️ 1 October 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Robert Viglione is the Co-Founder & CEO at Horizen Labs, and the Founder of zkVerify . In this conversation we talk about zero-knowledge proofs, why they are critical for U.S. national security, how this technology allows machines to share information without revealing data, Rob’s experience as a military intelligence officer in Afghanistan, how he discovered the value of Bitcoin, and why ZKPs are one of the most underrated technologies shaping the future.
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| 0:54.1 | Satellis need to communicate with each other. They need to communicate in secure ways. |
| 0:57.8 | They do today. But I think today, more than ever, we have to worry about adversarial operations |
| 1:02.6 | that could take down networks or interfere with networks or spoof networks or inject false |
| 1:08.1 | information into those networks. So using cryptographic tools like zero knowledge proofs are just fundamental for sharing |
| 1:13.5 | information because finance runs the world and Bitcoin pioneered and opened the door for |
| 1:18.7 | all kinds of like massive digital financial innovations that are happening now, that we need to |
| 1:24.1 | link this ultimately to real human beings in real countries that are subject to actual |
| 1:27.9 | laws. What's going on, guys? Today we've got a great episode, Rob Viglione. He is the founder of Horizon |
| 1:35.2 | Labs, and he's also the founder of ZK Verify. In this conversation, we are going to talk about |
| 1:40.6 | something that is very important. It's a piece of technology that is imperative for U.S. national security. We know we're going into a digital world and there's everything from |
| 1:48.4 | artificial intelligence, semiconductors, and much more. But we need to be able to pass information |
| 1:53.5 | between all these machines without actually revealing the information. That's where something |
| 1:58.0 | called zero knowledge proofs comes into. This is something you've probably heard about, but nobody actually knows what is it? How does it work? And why is it so important for U.S. national security? Well, I went and I found Rob, and Rob's got a great understanding of the technology. They've been building a ton of this, and he also happens to have been an intelligence officer in the military. He was in Afghanistan when he realized the value of Bitcoin, |
| 2:18.7 | and he's got a ton of stories and understanding of where the world is going |
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