Birmingham
The Kitchen Cabinet
BBC
4.6 • 726 Ratings
🗓️ 29 November 2025
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
Jay Rayner and the panel are at the Crescent Theatre in Birmingham answering questions from an audience of keen home cooks. Joining Jay to discuss noodle soup and microwave meals are chefs, cooks and food writers Jocky Petrie, Tim Anderson and Jeremy Pang, and materials experts Dr Zoe Laughlin.
Jay and the panel share their best vegetarian bakes for a packed lunch, their top noodle soup recipes to make at home, and answer the most philosophical of questions - what's the point in cavolo nero?
Situated in Birmingham, home to one of the UK's largest Vietnamese communities, Jay chats to local restaurateur, Oliver Ngo from Vietnamese Street Kitchen about the flavour profiles, toppings and variations of a pho.
Produced by Dulcie Whadcock Assistant Producer: Suhaar Ali
A Somethin' Else production for BBC Radio 4
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:07.0 | Hello, I'm Emma Barnett. For most of my career, I've been on live radio, and I love it. |
| 0:13.3 | But I've always wondered, what if we'd had more time? How much deeper does the story go? |
| 0:19.2 | I remember having this very sharp thought that what you do right now, this is it. |
| 0:24.3 | This defines your life. |
| 0:26.0 | I'm ready to talk and ready to listen. |
| 0:28.3 | I'm insulted by how little the medical community is ever bothered with this. |
| 0:33.9 | Ready to talk with me, Emma Barnard, is my new podcast. |
| 0:37.0 | Listen on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:39.0 | Hello and welcome to the kitchen cabinet this week. We're in the city of Birmingham in the |
| 0:42.8 | West Midlands, not to be confused with the 13 Birmingham's in the US, the one in Canada, |
| 0:47.7 | nor the crater on the moon, which was named Birmingham in the late 1800s. Birmingham has many |
| 0:53.6 | strings to its bow. |
| 0:54.7 | Here you will find the largest public library in Europe, |
| 0:57.3 | more miles of canal than Venice, |
| 0:59.1 | and the UK's first large-scale indoor shopping centre, the Bullring. |
| 1:03.0 | This city is the birthplace of countless iconic inventions, |
| 1:06.5 | including the bicycle bell, the police whistle, |
| 1:08.6 | and our favourite anthropomorphic locomotive, Thomas the tank engine. |
| 1:13.0 | Joining me to offer their own revolutionary inventions, |
| 1:15.7 | our cooks, chefs and food writers, Jockey Petrie, |
| 1:18.1 | Tim Anderson and Jeremy Pang, |
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