36 years in the army.

Yes, that's incredible.

The reason I could get by with like no sleep

in so much energy and creativity and drive and enthusiasm

I discovered is that I had a condition called hyperthymia. By the time I was 58, I went into full-blown

mania, raging inferno, where I went basically into a state of madness. If you choose to get help, you can live a happy, healthy life, but the big deterrent is stigma.

So if someone's listening to this and they're really suffering or they know someone's suffering,

what should they do? The key to my recovery has been...

Greg, thanks so much for making the trek out here. Really, really appreciate it and it's great to see you.

Mark, thank you very much. It's great to be with you. Yeah. So,

36 years in the army.

Yes, that's incredible.

That's about half of your life probably.

Right.

And plus that doesn't count the four years at West Point where you're actually an active duty soldier as well.

So it really is 40, but I only I don't count the you don't count the West Point.

Most of your peers probably would count that. Yeah. I mean it's counted in your retirement package and everything. Right. Yeah.

We have a lot to talk about like I'm excited to dig into your book. Bipolar general.

You have an esteemed career. Thank you for your service, sir. You're welcome. Incredible. It was exciting and I loved it. Yes, I checked it.

Well, most careers are, you know, like a heartbeat.

Right.

They got all sorts of ups and downs, so I imagine you got some stories to tell.

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