From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

I was the one who's like, you know, taking five years out of a skate video, and it's like,

I want to be in Bing's video.

So when I came back, they were probably really psyched to be filmed by me, and then probably

weirded out that I wanted to follow all these other aspects of their lives.

Growing up in Rockford, Illinois, a city outside Chicago that's seen better days,

director and cinematographer Bing Lu was obsessed with making skateboarding videos. Over the course of

12 years, one of those mini-movies morphed into a feature-length coming-of-age documentary called

Minding the Gap. Lou tells KCRW's Matt Holtzman about following his friends and their fractured families,

camera in hand, to make Minding the Gap, which is now available on Hulu.

And he tells us why he, very reluctantly, decided to include himself in his movie.

But first on the news banter, when is time really up?

Stay tuned, it's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my comrade in banter, Matt Bellany, of the Hollywood reporter. Hello, Matt. Hi there. So we are entering a phase of the Times Up movement, which was foreseeable.

People started asking about this quite a while ago, which is when is someone able to come back from transgressions?

And in the post-Harvey Weinstein weeks and months, we were, like a lot of publications, we were deluged with complaints about misconduct.

And, you know, in many cases, these were things like the Kevin Spacey allegations, which I think we can agree that kind of allegation is pretty much a career ender. You know, you don't come back from that kind of repeated, violent, allegedly criminal assault. You know, for Harvey Weinstein, he will hope to stay out of prison. But there's all this other type of behavior. And I feel like with the passage of time,

it's come more clearly into focus. And we saw it this past week, first of all, with Jessica

Chastain, said she wanted to make a film with an Australian director, Matthew Newton. He is a guy with the history of assault

on two of his girlfriends and various other people. And this is kind of pretty serious assault,

like assault assault. He has said that he has been sober and dealt with his mental health issues

and he has been leading a quiet life for the past six years,

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