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your story. Billy Hallowell has been working in journalism and media for more than two

decades. His writings, his interviews, his social commentary, they've appeared in the Deseret News,

The Blaze, Human Events,

Mediaite, and Fox News.com. He's also served as the Faith and Culture Editor of the Blaze,

the senior editor of Faithwire, and he's written four books, and today we're going to dive

in deep to one of them. Billy, thanks so much for joining us on Takeaways. Hey, thanks for having me.

Billy, we've known each other for a while, and it's great to flip the script where

I'm actually asking you questions instead of you asking me questions.

Yeah, yeah, it's a nice role reversal.

It's strange, but it's nice.

Billy, you wrote a book recently that's called Playing with Fire, a modern investigation into demons, exorcism, and ghosts.

Has anyone ever asked you why you decided to play with fire by diving into a topic like this?

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