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You're listening to Episode 190 of Jimmy Akin's mysterious world.

We'll be looking at mysteries from the twin perspectives of faith and reason.

In this episode, we're talking about Major Bill Ray and his career as a psychic spy.

I'm Dom Betanelli and joining me today is Jimmy Akin.

Hi Jimmy. Howdy, Dom. From the 1970s to the 1990s, the U.S. Defense Department

conducted a psychic spying program that came to be known as Stargate.

It was headquartered out of Fort Mead, Maryland and relied on a psychic ability called

Remote Viewing. One of the psychic spies who served at Fort Mead was Major Bill Ray.

For a time, he also served as Commander of the Unit. So who was Major Ray? What role did he play

in Stargate? And what can he tell us about Remote Viewing? That's what we'll be talking about

on this episode of Jimmy Akin's mysterious world. Jimmy, what should we say to begin?

First, I'm very happy to be able to do this interview. And I want to say a special word of

thanks to Paul Smith, who listeners will remember from episodes 156 and 157, where we interviewed him

about his own career in Stargate. Paul very kindly put me in touch with Bill Ray, so I wanted

to say thanks to him. Also, this will be a two-parter in today's episode. We'll be talking with

Major Ray about his career with the Remote Viewing project, as well as some about how Remote Viewing

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