Bill Kristol: The Administration’s Stupid Ethnonationalism
The Bulwark Podcast
The Bulwark
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🗓️ 16 February 2026
⏱️ 52 minutes
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Summary
The white Anglo-Saxon supremacy in Trumpland is so over the top that even child-of-Cuban-immigrants Marco Rubio claims America’s common cultural heritage is European. But then with a schizophrenic touch, our secretary of state went on to endorse the reelection of Viktor Orban, who has decidedly turned Hungary away from Western democratic values. In response, some high-profile Democrats weighed in, including AOC from Munich. Plus, we are constantly reminded to not trust anything DHS says, the Dems should not agree to give one more penny to ICE, and Marco: The music of The Beatles and The Rolling Stones would not have existed without African American culture.
Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller for the holiday pod.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. |
| 0:14.5 | I'm your host, Tim Miller. |
| 0:15.7 | A little update on the week. |
| 0:17.0 | We are in Minneapolis for live shows Wednesday and Thursday. |
| 0:20.4 | Excited to get out there. |
| 0:22.0 | There's maybe about a dozen tickets left for Wednesday. So if you have a last second fancy to get up to Minneapolis, buy those ASAP. |
| 0:30.5 | As far as the pod schedule is concerned, we'll have normal Blerc Pod like four out of the five days this week. |
| 0:35.8 | I think Thursday we will give you guys the |
| 0:38.5 | wednesday night show on this feed and then friday uh we'll give you the tnl the next level show |
| 0:45.1 | from the thursday night live show if that makes sense so no next level this week until friday |
| 0:49.1 | and besides that you're on your normal schedule speak of normal schedule it's monday |
| 0:53.3 | so we got bill crystal apparently it's Monday. So we got Bill |
| 0:54.5 | Crystal. Apparently it's President's Day. I did not realize it was President's Day until I started |
| 0:58.4 | reading your newsletter this morning. Down here, it's just Lundy Gra. But happy President's Day to those |
| 1:04.9 | who celebrate. You had a little meditation on it this morning, Bill. Do you have any deep thoughts on |
| 1:09.6 | honoring our presidents? |
| 1:15.6 | Happy Lundy Gra. I guess I just had a simple mind of you that there was Mardi Gras, which I was intelligent enough to know, I guess, is a Tuesday. That's why it's Marty, |
| 1:19.1 | but I didn't really. You guys in New Orleans are good at extending these holidays into |
| 1:24.7 | many days, weeks, months, you know. It's a whole carnival season, actually. But yeah. Yeah, that's good. That's good. My meditation was very simple. I mean, when I was young and conservative, it was sort of fashionable to lament the decline of Washington's birthday and the amount of Lincoln's into this generic president's day kind of a side of you know like all presidents |
| 1:44.8 | are equal all presidents are worth it right everyone gets a trophy yeah yeah that was a very staple |
| 1:49.8 | a staple of conservative talking points i may have even published an article to like this in the |
| 1:53.9 | movie said and i can't remember so i'm just being contrary and saying well maybe it's okay that |
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