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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: Fake News on '60 Minutes'

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 November 2025

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

CBS News heavily edited its ‘60 Minutes’ interview with Trump, not only removing his lies about 2020, but also conveniently cutting the part about how the news show paid him off for his bogus lawsuit over a Kamala interview last year. That payoff may well have been how the one-time legendary news network landed a 90-minute interview with Trump to begin with. Meanwhile, the ‘peace’ president is conducting an illegal war in the Caribbean, and also happens to know nothing about the crypto magnate he just pardoned—even though he’s funneling billions to the Trump family’s crypto venture. Plus, Dems are definitely united in wanting the party to show some cojones, Republicans are trying some rage bait against Mamdani, and the ‘strong’ president who won a ‘big’ mandate has not been invited to campaign the night before tomorrow’s elections.

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast.

0:14.7

I'm your host Tim Miller.

0:15.9

It is the worst Monday of the year because, you know,

0:19.2

Tom Cotton and others have decided that we need to be engulfed in darkness, you know, that they want me to have a vitamin D deficiency. And I don't understand it. If you're one of the people who likes this extra darkness, a pox on your house as well. And so I'm going to be grumpy this week.

0:38.8

And I'm hoping that our usual Monday guests can cheer me up, as always. It's Bill Crystal. Is it better to have some light in the morning to when you walk the kid to school, the school bus or something like that? No, no, no. Everyone in New Orleans, it's not such a late time that, of course, you guys don't even with the elementary school is probably beginning around 11 a.m.

0:55.6

Right.

0:55.8

So they go until 11 a.m., right?

0:55.8

So they go until 8 p.m.

0:58.3

Yeah.

0:59.1

We're hung over. I want to shoot hoops with the kid after school. Is that so bad? No, it's going to be dark. But good thing. It's 6.15 a.m. It'll be nice and bright with the sun coming in my window.

1:08.0

Really love that, really useful.

1:10.1

Donald Trump was on 60 minutes last night, and you did not suffer through that, I hear? No, I didn't watch that. Okay, great. So we're going to suffer through it together. I thought, you know, it's typical Trump. Trump knows how to work these people. It's a little frustrating, I would say. It's a frustrating watch. I mean, Nora, I guess, is asking about hard topics. So it's, you know, it's not like a Fox News interview exactly. But she's, you know, you do the things. And you hate to nitpick interviewers because it's harder than it looks at somebody has to do it. Who's had to learn how to do it? But it's like, are you not worried about the appearance of corruption? She has some point.

1:44.5

And I'm like, it's corruption.

1:46.1

You know, she's like, did you instruct to the Department of Justice to go after Comey?

1:50.6

It's like, you instructed them.

1:51.9

Like, why are you doing?

1:52.6

Why are you letting him spin?

1:53.7

Just say what happened.

1:54.7

Anyway, so I got a little frustrated with that.

1:56.7

We'll start here with you, Bill.

1:57.8

There was a question from Nora about 2028, and on TV, they played the short answer, which is him talking about how he's got a good bench and how people really would love for him to run, et cetera. And then it cuts off. But if you go to the, and this is apparently allowed now, I guess, there's a longer answer that's online. You read the transcript. And in this long answer, Trump talks about

2:18.3

how he won in 2020 by a lot, how Jasmine Crockett is low IQ, and then he pivots into the 60

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