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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: A Madman's Way of War

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

News, Society & Culture, Politics, News Commentary

4.611.6K Ratings

🗓️ 2 March 2026

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Trump cannot enunciate a clear reason for why he's chosen to go to war against Iran, and the administration is not even bothering to coordinate a message that clarifies its objective. While the military campaign appears aimed at regime change, Hegseth denies it is. And instead of speaking directly to Americans, POTUS himself has taken on a Jekyll and Hyde approach to his rationales in a series of private interviews: he's waffled between "freedom," to installing a caretaker regime à la Venezuela, to maybe even revenge. In any event, the United States seems like it's being dog-walked by the Israelis and the Saudis, and the corrupt deals between the Trump family and Gulf Arab states may be a factor. Plus, anti-interventionist JD is in the cuck chair, and a preview of Tuesday's Senate primary in Texas.

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Buller podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. It is Monday. So we're back with

0:18.6

editor at Largeville Crystal, author of the Morning

0:21.1

Shots newsletter.

0:22.2

A lot's happened since Friday's podcast with Amanda Carpenter, which should be a reminder

0:26.8

to you all to be checking out the bulwark takes feed on the weekends as news happens because

0:32.1

we're at war with Iran now.

0:34.3

And Bill, I just want to kind of start with a state of play for people, if that's okay

0:37.9

with you. You can edit or amend any of my assessment. I will be happy to. And also,

0:44.1

you and JVL and Sarah and Mark Kirtling did an excellent early Saturday, with Saturday morning

0:50.1

at 9, kind of first snapshot of where things were. And then you and I and Mark

0:55.7

Hurtling did something at noon yesterday, Sunday. And I've got to say both of them were,

1:00.3

I thought, informative. And luckily, General Hurtling's there so the rest of us can talk.

1:06.0

And he can actually explain and analyze. And no, I think both our analysis of what was happening on the ground and to you're at home for that matter domestically, which you particularly focused on yesterday, was good.

1:17.9

Look, it's a very impressive military operation.

1:20.7

We took out a huge number of Farran assets and working with Israel, very close collaboration with Israel.

1:27.1

I mean, I may be a little surprised by that.

1:28.8

Usually there's some attempt to maintain distance.

1:30.7

It seems like it was a genuinely, you know, coordinated effort, wiped out a large percentage

1:36.0

of the Iranian leadership and really a nationwide campaign against military assets,

1:41.7

way beyond degrading, you know, key nodes of the nuclear program or taking

1:47.1

out some missile sites. You know, that was what happened last summer in June. This was a real

1:52.9

attempt to go after the regime in many aspects, I'd say. And if you look at this, just a map of the

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