Welcome to making the argument. Today we have a special guest talking about, I think,

let's say at least a slightly controversial issue. In fact, one that has become even more so

over the last several years is people have started to question the medical experts. Obviously

after COVID, there was a lot of us that had questions because we felt like we had not only

being misled, but deliberately lied to

and punished for asking questions. And now that has carried over into a lot of other areas

that go way beyond things like vaccines or pandemics, but into a whole host of various treatments,

therapy, and pharmaceuticals that we are commonly given for common diagnoses. And today, we have an expert on

this topic that we trust because he doesn't necessarily go with the narrative that we're always

fed. And that is Dr. Joseph from the highly popular, highly informative podcast side effects.

Dr. Joseph, thanks for being on with us today. Nick, thank you so much for

having me. Well, let me jump right into this. Like I said before, man, COVID, COVID kind of

broke some things. If there was one area of trust that the American people seemed to have,

it was with their doctor, it was with their medical professionals.

And COVID seems to have just completely ripped a hole in that to where some people are saying,

you know what, I'm just, I'm done with Western medicine, right? If the doctor tells me to do it,

I might do the opposite, not simply because they got things wrong, but kind of the arrogance

associated with how they got it wrong. And this has led people to ask a whole host of questions

with respect to therapy. And a big one of those questions is all of the drugs that we're being

constantly prescribed. And this is what you

talk about on your podcast. And so I guess the big question I want to know right off the bat

to kind of start this conversation, have we all gone just a little bit overboard on challenging

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