Welcome to the Judge John Hodgman podcast. I'm Bill of Jesse Thorn. We're in chambers this week

to clear the docket. And with me is a man with a vehicle with no doors, Judge John Hodgman.

What vehicle are you thinking of? Do you have one of those jeeps where the doors come off?

I want those jeeps. It has doors on it sometimes. That's true. Sometimes no doors, sometimes no roof.

Always a windshield. Though you can take that off of the jeep. Yeah, if it's a hassle, if you're tired of

not being buffeted. Yeah, you know how you're driving along this? I just wish I had some bugs in my eyes.

Yeah. Well, I know I got you those motoring goggles for Christmas and you've been itching to use them.

That's true. I have been itching to use them. Yes, this is our long promised docket about

transportation, planes, trains, automobiles, actually no trains. Well, a finicular is a kind of train.

And also boats. I long said Jesse Thorn, I would not do this episode until we had at least one

finicular case and one gondola case. And guess what? We've got two of both. Thank goodness.

And not only that, we have a very special guest. The last time we talked about vehicles,

we had this guest on. And you know what? We should have him on every other episode. We don't

need to wait for these vehicles because he's a delight. His name is River Butcher, friend of this

court. River Butcher, of course, comedian actor. You've seen him on free forms. Good trouble,

which is coming back for a new season, right? The summer, right? River. That's right. Are you on

the sea? This is River Butcher. Yeah, they do it in like a two-part season. So I believe that the

second half of the fourth season is what's coming back. Yeah, that was the problem with TV.

It was too easy. It was too easy. Make it hard. Yeah, make it a puzzle. Make it a challenge.

I don't want to know when things are happening. I want them to just present themselves right now.

Yeah, I don't want to turn on TV and see what you're showing. Make it a side quest for me.

That's right. Make sure you have to figure something out. Maybe I have to catch it in a store window

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