Hello, Johnny Long here. Clearly you are somewhat enjoying this podcast, otherwise you wouldn't be listening.

The simple proposition is if you like something and want it to stick around, please consider

paying for it. And the only reason this all exists is because people are paying for it,

but we need all of you. We know you're out there, listen to this for free, and that's fine because we're good honest people, and we're

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tough business and while we've made a great start, they're still a long way to go. Consider what

these podcasts and the rest of our media is worth to you, and hopefully that amount is above zero,

ideally. So, if you regularly listen to these podcasts and are not yet a member,

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Go to escapecollective.com forward slash member to sign up.

And thanks so much if you already have.

Thank you. already have. Welcome back to the Spin Cycle podcast, everybody. I'm Kaylee Fretz. Joining me today,

Johnny Long, welcome to the show. Welcome to you, Kaylee. Kit Nicholson, how are you? A bit chilly today.

Bit chilly, I'm chillier.

Yeah, I didn't realize, as I said it, that was asking for trouble.

But never mind.

Forgot to turn the heat on in the meth camper last night.

It's just a little bit cold.

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