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Welcome to the Around the NFL podcast.

I'm Dan Hansis, joined in a virtual room filled with some heroes.

Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, the big dog,

is Derek Henry. It's Derek Henry's birthday. The Titans fans are ready to celebrate the running

backs return. Speaking of Derek Henry, boys, how are you, by the way? Doing great. Doing great,

Danny. Great. That's great to hear. Doing fair to well. Fair to well. Greg, we were, we had a little cameo there on the NFL Now program today and you moved away from the tie. And I'm not saying it had anything to do with me. In fact, me mentioning that you shouldn't wear a tie is only going to make you want to wear a tie more. But I just, I like seeing Greg in the Greg jacket and, you know, Henley or whatever over Greg in the suit and tie. It was a button down. I don't mind ties. You have this phrase and you said it on the show. When you're in the tie, that's when you know they get you. To me, I don't think that way. Getting you is mental. And I'm fine wearing a tie. I told you, like, I would be fine if we had to wear a uniform because then you, like, you don't have to think about it. It's fine. I don't care about my fashion. That'd be nice. Greg loves a schoolgirl

uniform. I, you know, I remember working, my mom worked at a big insurance company and I worked in

the mailroom for a couple summers in college. And I do remember, and this is to not say anything denigrating about people that work

cubicle life because it's a, you know, a massive part of our country in terms of the workforce,

even though things are changing now. It's not 1999 anymore. But I remember thinking, you know,

seeing everyone that I just didn't, I never wanted to be in a tie and didn't want to be in a cubicle, which took me to, like, being on the sidelines at high school football games, freezing my butt off, like, after college, following a sports dream.

But it kind of was born out of not wanting to wear a tie every day in a lot of ways.

I mean, here's the thing. Like, I think Greg knows I've been on anti-tie beat for a while now. And for many of the reasons that you mentioned in, I had jobs for years, like in downtown L.A., where you had to wear a tie. And there's definitely when you were on the East Coast that was, you know, requisite for plenty of jobs, too. For some reason, that didn't quite bug me, but when I think about

what a tie is, like it serves, I don't need it to be functional. Not all fashion needs to be functional,

but the concept of a tie at this point, I think we are post ties as even being kind of stylish.

Like they look suppressive on so many people.

They look suppressive and they look like they're keeping people prisoner to some degree.

That's how I feel in one.

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