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[Bible] Episode 325: Pete Ruins Everything with Amy-Jill Levine

The Bible For Normal People

The Bible for Normal People

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.73.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 April 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In this week’s episode of Pete Ruins Everything, Pete talks with Amy-Jill Levine about supersessionism and its impact on how Christians understand Judaism and the New Testament. They explore how ideas like “replacement theology” show up in biblical texts, why these interpretations have caused harm, and how readers can engage the Bible more honestly and responsibly. Together, they invite listeners to wrestle with difficult passages and approach both traditions with greater humility and care. Show Notes → thebiblefornormalpeople.com/episodes/episode-325-pete-ruins-everything-with-amy-jill-levineWatch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Uxp50C8Ji-s ********** This episode is sponsored by Factor. Head to factormeals.com/normalpeople50off and use code normalpeople50off to get 50 percent off and free breakfast for a year. Eat like a pro this month with Factor. New subscribers only, varies by plan. 1 free breakfast item per box for 1 year while subscription is active. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is Pete Ruins Everything, where assumptions come to die and nobody leaves happy.

0:05.3

I'm Pete Ends.

0:15.5

Welcome to the new Pete Ruins.

0:18.9

We're trying out a new format, and we'd love to know what you think.

0:22.0

Leave us a comment or email us at info at the Bible for normal people.com.

0:26.4

Now before we get to the episode, we have to take care of a little housekeeping.

0:29.8

So we'll see you on the other side for our new segment, Pete Ruins the News.

0:34.9

Before we get started with our episode today, we wanted to let you know about our April

0:38.8

class. Is this The Apocalypse with Dr. Robin Whitaker? To be fair, it's not like we pick this topic

0:44.7

for any particular reason. Hopefully a few people will find it relevant. I hope so. Well,

0:50.3

the class is taught by Dr. Robin Whitaker, an associate professor at the Wesley Center for

0:54.8

Theology, Ethics, and Public Policy. She specializes in the book of Revelation and the way

1:00.3

the Bible gets used and misused in public discourse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but most importantly,

1:05.3

and probably the work she's most known and respected for is Revelation for normal people.

1:10.3

That will carry her beyond the grave.

1:12.1

Exactly.

1:12.8

In the class, Robin's going to cover what's meant by Apocalypse and why the language we use

1:16.8

matters, how American evangelicals learn to read Revelation as an in-times manual, and why

1:22.0

that's a problem.

1:22.8

How Jewish and Christian Apocalypse can be harnessed as texts of hope, not just catastrophe, and how texts

1:28.9

like Revelation can help us name and combat evil in times like these.

1:32.9

So if you've been hearing about Armageddon or the apocalypse in the news and you want to know,

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