[Bible] Episode 324: Pete Enns & Jared Byas - A City on a Hill: A Ten Year Retrospective

The Bible For Normal People

The Bible for Normal People

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

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🗓️ 13 April 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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In this week’s episode of The Bible for Normal People, Pete and Jared reflect on ten years and over 400 episodes of the podcast, revisiting what they thought they were doing and what they now see more clearly in hindsight. They explore themes that have emerged along the way, including the shift from certainty to wisdom in reading the Bible and the move from information to personal and communal formation. They also discuss how these conversations have been shaped by a wider range of voices and why engaging the Bible calls for ongoing discernment rather than fixed answers, inviting listeners to rethink what the Bible is for today. Show Notes → thebiblefornormalpeople.com/episodes/episode-324-pete-enns-and-jared-byas-a-city-on-a-hill-a-ten-year-retrospective Watch this episode on YouTube → https://youtu.be/zMia-yKjnN0 ********** This episode is sponsored by Factor. Head to factormeals.com/normalpeople50off and use code normalpeople50off to get 50 percent off and free breakfast for a year. Eat like a pro this month with Factor. New subscribers only, varies by plan. 1 free breakfast item per box for 1 year while subscription is active. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	You're listening to the Bible for normal people, the only God ordained podcast on the internet.
0:05.0	I'm Pete N's.
0:05.7	And I'm Jared Baez.
0:11.9	Before we get started with our episode today, we wanted to let you know about our April
0:15.9	class.
0:16.8	Is this The Apocalypse with Dr. Robin Whitaker?
0:19.8	To be fair, it's not like we pick this topic for any particular reason.
0:23.6	You know, hopefully a few people will find it relevant.
0:26.2	Yeah, I hope so.
0:26.9	Well, the class is taught by Dr. Robin Whitaker, an associate professor at the Wesley Center for Theology, Ethics, and Public Policy.
0:34.0	She specializes in the book of Revelation and the way the Bible gets used and
0:38.8	misused in public discourse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but most importantly, and probably the work she's
0:43.4	most known and respected for is Revelation for normal people. That will carry her beyond the grave.
0:49.1	Exactly. In the class, Robin's going to cover what's meant by Apocalypse and why the language
0:53.4	we use matters,
0:54.5	how American evangelicals learn to read Revelation as an in-times manual, and why that's a problem.
0:59.7	How Jewish and Christian Apocalypses can be harnessed as texts of hope, not just catastrophe,
1:05.3	and how texts like Revelation can help us name and combat evil in times like these.
1:09.9	So if you've been hearing about
1:11.0	Armageddon or the apocalypse in the news and you want to know, well, is this the apocalypse?
1:15.9	This class is for you. Mark your calendars for Thursday, April 30th from 5 to 6.30 p.m. Eastern
1:21.5	time and then go to the Bible from normal people.com front slash apocalypse to sign up today.
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