I almost have the most profound like public land moments on my bike. You're so far back, right?

You're literally, you know, you got a 25 mile ride and you are in the middle of nowhere and you look around like,

what would I do if I didn't have this?

But mostly the public lands allow you this lifestyle where it's just a freaking it's so much healthier

for a way approach to living. Yeah, you know. It is I mean you can't people to agree to invest in order.

It is a centralized disinformation campaign for people to agree to divest themselves of their own asset.

In order to make these changes and keep people outside and utilize these public lands,

we got all have to do a hell of a lot better job of promoting all of these pursuits and being welcoming.

I mean regardless of pursuit, it's like, well, why are you really out there?

Right, right. Well, you know, it's like being outside.

Hello, this is Hal Herring.

Welcome to the Backcountry Hunters and Anglers podcast and Blast.

Not sure when this will be running, but it's summertime here in Montana,

Augusta, Montana, and I'm here with Kit and Karuth, founder and owner of First Light, which is a clothing company that most people are aware of by now.

And I come in a conservation leader here in this industry, and I'm here with my old friend Ryan Callahan.

Who handles conservation for a first light and we've been back up into Bob Marshall doing some fishing and are down here now

gonna do a little bit talking real quick about kind of things that are going

on now. So Kenton thanks being here, man. Thank you.

I know.

That's been a great trip so far.

We had a good friend of Rines that managed to run us up a lake and back in the woods there

to catch some, catch the hill out of some fish.

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