Beyond the Polls with Henry Olsen: To Win or Not to Win: Is that the Question?
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🗓️ 13 November 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to be on the polls. This week, I'm joined by Simon Bazelon, principal author of the provocative news study, deciding to win. Let's dive him. |
| 0:12.8 | Well, Democrats are a happy bunch, not about the shutdown. Obviously, many Democrats in the field dislike the decision of the gang of eight to vote with Republicans |
| 0:23.0 | to reopen the government. But after the Tuesday November election landslides, no other way to put it, |
| 0:31.1 | many Democrats are looking eagerly to 2026 and perhaps a little more eagerly to 2028. |
| 0:37.4 | But what path do they choose? And that is the |
| 0:40.2 | ongoing discussion in the Democratic Party. And here to talk about that with us is the author of a |
| 0:44.7 | really important paper on that, deciding to win. The author is Simon Bazelon. Simon, welcome to be on the |
| 0:52.8 | poll. Thank you for having me. |
| 0:55.0 | Well, we could ask everyone to read the 70-page report before they listen to this and just go |
| 1:01.4 | into the weeds. |
| 1:02.5 | Let's not. |
| 1:03.3 | Let's ask you to summarize what does your report's primary findings show and what is your |
| 1:10.6 | primary takeaway? |
| 1:11.6 | I think deciding to win centers around two ideas. |
| 1:14.6 | So the first is what I like to call prioritization, and the second is what I like to call |
| 1:18.6 | positioning. |
| 1:19.6 | And so we track how the Democratic Party has changed over the last 12 or 15 years. |
| 1:24.6 | So starting in 2012, we start to see really big shifts. So the first shift is that |
| 1:29.1 | the Democratic Party focuses a lot less on economic issues than it used to. And the way we looked |
| 1:34.6 | at this was to look at the Democratic Party platform and the frequency with which various terms |
| 1:39.1 | appeared in the party platform. What we saw is that in comparison to 2012, the 2024 Democratic platform focused dramatically |
| 1:46.1 | less on words like the economy or economic or middle class, work, crime, responsibility. |
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