And the Hello and welcome back to Chasing Excellence, a show about chasing what truly matters.

My name is Patrick Cummings.

Here as always with Ben Bergeron how are you my friend I'm good

Patrick how are you good good we're gonna zoom back into the past a little bit this

time around and then we'll come back to present day. We've got in 2017 you filmed a whiteboard talk for some members of your gym where you laid out the what we call I don't know if you actually called it this, but we called it the tear drop model,

maybe of public health, might be the simplest way to put it.

And so I don't know why I was going through the YouTube channel and I found it and people when we put it out a lot of people responded to it and so I watched something I was like this is kind of interesting so I shot you and I was like hey do you want to talk about this or do you want to update it a little? So here's what I think would be fun to do.

We're going to jump into the original 2017 talk, it's about, I don't know, 10 or 12 minutes or something

like that.

I'm going to listen to that and then we're going to come back on the other side.

I'm just going to see if there's anything you want to update

and see where the conversation goes,

have a short conversation on the other side of it.

Cool?

Cool.

Cool, sounds good.

Awesome.

Excuse me.

So let us jump into, like I said, 2017 Ben with the teardrop model of public health.

I want to share with you guys a little bit about this paradigm shift that I've had in our overall approach to what we're trying to create.

And what I think is interesting is I think that this stems nicely into where the general public

is and where everyone is in line with kind of like our vision,

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